La policia de Bangkok acelera las pruebas de orina a turistas occidentales y expatriados

[Javi0567]

Tanto los turistas occidentales, como los residentes en Bangkok, son ahora regularmente detenidos por la policía de dicha ciudad, los cuales, son interrogados, cacheados y obligados a proporcionar muestras de orina.

Noticia completa AQUI

[boscoallende]

Naaa, si son majisimos, sobre todo si llevas 10.000 € sueltos

[Roland Garros]

el esposo de un amiga mia paso por ese trance el susto en cuerpo es lo peor de todo

[Jesús]

¡Vuelve la mordida!
¡La mejor manera de recuperar la pureza de antaño!. En mis inicios por el reino quedaban restos de esas prácticas y el gobierno decidió acabar con ellas al objeto de desarrollar el turismo, eso era en 1.990.
¿Cuando vuelva me harán mear en un bote, solo si salgo de noche por Sukhumbit o también por la mañana en el Wat Arun tienes que sacarte la chorra? ¡Joder como se está poniendo el patio!

[Jesús]

Según me han dicho no es del todo exacto, lo de la mordida me refiero. Vosotros los residentes lo sabréis mejor, el problema es para aquellos que acostumbran a consumir productos prohibidos, les hacen el análisis y si les detectan algo pasan a la fase dos, ya te consideran un delincuente y desde esa débil posición no te queda otra que negociar la multa bajo manga, de lo contrario te aplican la ley pura y dura y te vas al penal a cumplir como Yuu-Yee, 15 años de nada.
Si no te encuentran nada te vas tranquilamente, ¡Vamos que la poli no te echa unos polvillos a la meada para que des positivo, que esa no es una manera de proceder habitual.

[Javi0567]

Existen muchas leyendas urbanas de que la policia te mete droga en el bolsillo, o en este caso, que te adultera la orina. Todas esas historias son falsas. El que no lleve droga ni la haya consumido, puede ir tranquilo, que nada va a ocurrirle.

[Wimbledon]

Ampliando datos en este enlace

http://www.theglobaldispatch.com/police-scam-tourists-in-thailand-under-pretence-of-drug-testing-76550/

[isus]

Considerando que el residuo de las drogas dura mucho tiempo en el cuerpo la poli tiene la vaca atada.

[Javi0567]

Mirar lo que nos dice hoy el Bangkok Post

PINCHAR AQUI

[Wimbledon]

Este anuncio es de sumo interés:

"La policía de Thonglor, comunica que los extranjeros tienen derecho a negarse al test de drogas"
En este, enlace se puede leer la noticia completa.

http://www.stickboybangkok.com/news/thonglor-police-foreigners-right-say-drug-test/

[boscoallende]

Si quieres ir a la cárcel, te puedes negar, la ley te ampara. La pregunta es ¿lo que esta podrido es unas manzanas o lo que esta podrido es el cesto?

[Wimbledon]

Te enchironan por negarte a mear?

[boscoallende]

Posiblemente te enchironan, a los polis Thais no les suele gustar eso de ponerse farruco con ellos y menos si eres Farang, y lo de exijo mis derechos aquí no funciona, porque tus derechos en Tailandia suman 0.

[Roland Garros]

definitivamente esto roza la ilogica.

[Roland Garros]

mas de lo mismo en este enlace

http://asiancorrespondent.com/128988/bangkok-shakedown-tourists-report-increased-harassment-by-police/

[sunrise]

Se abrió al veda, en pocos días cientos turistas inspeccionados por la policia, en la mayoría de los caso el desenlace no es un enigma.

[boscoallende]

Venir de vacaciones a Tailandia se va a convertir en un deporte de riesgo. Al que le guste este tipo de deportes se lo puede pasar genial.

[sunrise]

A mi particularmente que me estén molestando-estafando por uniformados por el mero hecho de ser turista, me hace pensar en otros destinos donde aportar divisas, parece que a este país ultranacionalista le incomoda el farang, lo que antes eran casos aislados se están convirtiendo en algo normal en el paisaje thai.

[Wimbledon]

Perdón, copio y pego mi comentario de otro hilo, debería haberlo escrito en este. Disculpas por el error.

Depende en gran medida de la persona que sea sometida a eso. Supongamos que se lo hacen a un residente que lleva 10 años aquí, su reacción probablemente será de indignación, quizás alguna queja a nivel oficial (su respectiva embajada) o críticas en internet y asunto terminado.
Por otro lado, existe el turista o la turista ocasional que si se ve obligado/a a hacerlo, el tremendo susto que va a recibir, puede hasta amargarle las vacaciones o abandonar el país.
No es ningún secreto que la policía de Tailandia impone mucho y aún más a quienes no conocen bien este lugar.
Espero y deseo, que esta absurda manera de actuar acabe lo antes posible.

[Javi0567]

Ahora, tenemos esto:

"El Teniente general Prawut Thavornsiri, comisionado de la dirección Central de Investigaciones, ha dicho, que las denuncias por parte de los turistas en las zonas de Asoke y Thonglor, los cuales, han sido detenidos al azar y sometidos a pruebas de orina y posterior petición de dinero, serán revisadas. Si estas denuncias, se encuentran en lo cierto, la policía intervendrá"

Noticia AQUI

Este es el Teniente General Prawut Thavornsiri, comisionado de la dirección Central de Investigaciones, es obvio que hará lo posible para que esas denuncias, se encuentren en lo cierto y lanzar la policía contra esos otros polis corruptos que hacen mear a la gente.

[Javi0567]

Esto, quizás interese a alguien.

[Javi0567]

Aquí tenéis la versión escrita:

Over the last month or so there have been many negative reports in the media about police in Bangkok giving foreigners the shakedown. The story goes that the cops demand to see your passport or insist that you do a urine test beside the road. Failure to do so would lead to a “fine” of 5,000 Baht or a night in the local lock-up. Due to international coverage and pressure on social media, police authorities have come out to say that there is no campaign to target foreigners. Thonglor Police Station have gone one step further by distributing a leaflet making it clear what your rights are. Here is what they say:

Thonglor Police Station notice about searching foreigners for contraband

1. Searching foreigners
1.1 Foreigners may take photos of police officers who do the search before searching begins
1.2 Searching has to be done in a place with sufficient lighting and not be desolated
1.3 Do not pay any amount of money to police officers whether you are asked to do or not
1.4 In case you are in a vehicle or a taxi, police officers who stop a vehicle and do the search must be in a proper checkpoint, under control of a commissioned officer

2. Collecting urine specimen must be done only in the police station

3. Foreigners could carry a copy of first page and entry stamped page of their passport instead of the original one.

If you experience any problems, you can call the tourist police on 1155, 24 hours a day. You can also call any of the following police stations in Bangkok:

Thonglor Police Station: 02-3818853
Klongton Police Station: 02-3140041
Lumpini Police Station: 02-2555993
Bangrak Police Station: 02-2340242
Makkasan Police Station: 02-3181821

[Javi0567]

Aquí tenéis las consecuencias legales de estar involucadro con drogas.

Criminal Drug Offences

in Thailand
What Is The Legal Basis For Drug-Related Offences In Thailand?

Provisions for drug-related offences are contained in a raft of laws variously defined in the Measure for Suppressing Narcotic Offenders Act 2534 (1991) as being 'laws governing narcotics and laws governing active materials which have an active effect on the mind and the nerves.' The two most important Acts for practical purposes are the Narcotics Act 2522 (1979) and the Psychotropic Substances Act 2518 (1975).

How Do The Two Acts Define Various Substances?

The Psychotropic Substances Act defines the term "psychotropic substances" as being "such a psychotropic substance which is natural or derived from nature, or synthetic as the Minister notifies in the Government Gazette." Such "psychotropic substances" are classified into 4 categories, known in the Act as Schedules. Commonly known substances falling within the ambit of the Act include the following:

Schedule 1 – Tetrahydrocannabinol (THC – the active ingredient of cannabis); Gamma-hydroxybutyrate (GHB)
Schedule 2 – Ketamine; Ephedrine; Midazolam (Dormicum, Versed etc.); Triazolam (Halcion)
Schedule 4 – Alprazolam (Xanax); Diazepam (Valium); Lorazepam (Ativan)
The Narcotics Act defines the term 'narcotics' as being 'any form of chemicals or substances which, upon being consumed whether by taking orally, inhaling, smoking, injecting or by whatever means, causes physiological or mental effect in a significant manner such as need of continual increase of dosage, having withdrawal symptoms when deprived of the narcotics, strong physical and mental need of dosage and health in general being deteriorated…' Substances defined as narcotics are classified into 5 categories (the act also uses the term 'Category' rather than 'Schedule' as used in the Psychotropic Substances Act). Commonly known substances falling within the ambit of the Narcotics Act include the following:

Category 1 – Heroin;Amphetamine; Methamphetamine; MDMA (Ecstasy); LSD
Category 2 – Cocaine; Codeine; Methadone; Morphine
Category 5 – Cannabis; psychoactive mushrooms; Kratom Plant
What Are The Penalties For Unlawful Production Under The Acts?

Under the provisions of Psychotropic Substances Act, the penalties are as follows:

For Schedule 1 and 2 Substances:
Imprisonment of 5-20 years and a fine of 100,000-400,000 Baht for production, importation or exportation sale
Imprisonment not exceeding 5 years and a fine not exceeding 100,000 Baht for carrying across borders
Imprisonment of 1-5 years and a fine of 20,000-100,000 Baht for possession, use or consumption
For Schedule 3 and 4 Substances:
Imprisonment not exceeding 5 years and a fine not exceeding 100,000 Baht for production, importation or exportation sale
Imprisonment not exceeding 5 years and a fine not exceeding 100,000 Baht for carrying across borders
Imprisonment not exceeding one year or a fine not exceeding 20,000 Baht or both for possession, use or consumption
Under the provisions of the Narcotics Act, the penalties are as follows:

For Category 1 Substances:
Up to life imprisonment and a fine of 1,000,000-5,000,000 Baht for production, importation or exportation, unless for the purpose of disposal, in which case the penalty is death. The intention to 'dispose' is inferred through quantities defined in the Act
Up to life imprisonment and a fine of 100,000 – 5,000,000 Baht, or the death penalty, (depending upon the amount of the substance or substances found) for disposal or possession for the purpose of disposal
Up to 10 years imprisonment or a fine of 20,000 – 200,000 Baht for possession. Note again that if the quantity of the substance or substances found exceeds prescribed levels in the act, then possession for the purpose of disposal will be inferred. It should also be noted that 'disposal' is defined in the act as meaning to 'sell, distribute, give away indiscriminately, exchange or give
Up to 3 years imprisonment or a fine of 10,000 – 60,000 Baht for consumption
For Category 2 Substances:
Up to 10 years imprisonment and a fine of 100,000 – 1,000,000 Baht for production, importation or exportation. If the substance or substances found include morphine, opium or cocaine the penalty is increased to imprisonment of 20 years to life and fine of 2,000,000 – 5,000,000 Baht
Up to 10 years imprisonment and a fine of 20,000 – 200,000 Baht or both for disposal or possession for the purpose of disposal. In the case of morphine, opium or cocaine, 3-20 years or a fine of 60,000 – 400,000 Baht if the amount is under 100 grams, or 3-20 years or a fine of 500,000 – 5,000,000 Baht if over
Up to 5 years or a fine not exceeding 100,000 Baht or both for possession. If the quantity is 100 grams of a pure substance or more, this will be regarded as possession for the purpose of disposal
Six months to three years or a fine of 10,000 – 60,000 Baht or both for consumption
For Cannabis Under Category 5:
From 2-15 years imprisonment and a fine of 200,000 – 1,500,000 Baht for production, importation or exportation
From 2-10 years imprisonment or a fine of 40,000 – 200,000 Baht or both for disposal or possession for the purpose of disposal. If the quantity is over 10 kilograms, the penalty is increased to a maximum of 15 years and a fine of 200,000 – 1,500,000 Baht
Imprisonment not exceeding 5 years and or a fine not exceeding 100,000 Baht or both for possession
Imprisonment not exceeding 1 year and a fine of 100,000 – 1,000,000 for consumption
For Kratom Plant Under Category 5:
Imprisonment not exceeding 2 years and a fine not exceeding 200,000 Baht for production, importation or exportation
Imprisonment not exceeding 2 years or a fine not exceeding 40,000 Baht or both for disposal or possession for the purpose of disposal. If the quantity is over 10 kilograms, the penalty is imprisonment not exceeding 2 years and a fine not exceeding 200,000 Baht
Imprisonment not exceeding 1 year or a fine not exceeding 20,000 Baht or both for possession
Imprisonment not exceeding 1 month or a fine not exceeding 2,000 Baht for consumption

Who Is Charged With Overall Control Of Drug Enforcement?

The Narcotics Control Act 2519 (1976) designates the Narcotics Control Board (NCB) with overall responsibility for prevention and suppression of illegal drug use in Thailand. The Office of the Narcotics Control Board (ONCB) is the body which implements any resolutions of the NCB.

What Powers Do Drug Enforcement Officials Have?

Under provisions of the act, "competent officials" (for most practical purposes, this means the police), have to following powers of stop, search and arrest:

To enter and search any place or dwelling place, providing they have reasonable grounds to suspect that there is a person or persons who they reasonably suspect to be involved in the commission of offences relating to narcotics on the premises or there are illegal drugs on the premises, or the premises are being used or are intended to be used in the commission of offences involving illegal drugs. Note that the officials must have reasonable grounds to believe that delaying any search in order to obtain a warrant would result in the escape of any suspects, or the substances in question being hidden, destroyed or in some other way "transformed"
To search any person or vehicle if there are reasonable grounds to suspect they are carrying or hiding illegal drugs
To enter and search premises without a warrant (having reasonable grounds for suspicion) and order a person or a group of people to undergo "on the spot" drug tests (under provisions of the fifth amendment of the Narcotics Act)
To arrest any person involved in the commission of any offence related to illegal drugs
To seize any illegal drugs or any property being used or intending to be used in the commission of offences relating to narcotics or such that may be used in evidence
To search under the provisions of the Criminal Procedure Code
To make inquiries regarding suspects alleged to be involved in offences relating to narcotics
To issue a letter of enquiry or a summons to any person or official of any Government agency to give a statement or submit an account, document or material for examination
What Is The Law With Regard To Conspiracy?

The Act on Measures for the Suppression of Offenders in an Offence relating to Narcotics 2534 (1991) provides that two or more persons conspiring to commit an offence relating to narcotics shall be guilty of conspiracy and if the offence is subsequently committed, shall all be equally liable to the penalty imposed for such offences.

Are There Provisions For The Forfeiture Of Assets?

The above act provides for the forfeiture of all "instruments, equipment, conveyances, machineries or any other properties used in the commission of an offence relating to narcotics or used as accessories for producing the consequence of the commission of an offence relating to narcotics or possessed for use in the commission of an offence relating to narcotics," irrespective of whether any person is convicted in relation to any such offences. Authorities may also 'seize, restrain or confiscate the proceeds of drug trafficking' in any case, and additionally prosecute offences which took place outside the Kingdom, provided that:

The offender or any accomplice is a Thai national or has a place of residence in Thailand
The offender is an alien and intends its consequence to occur within the Kingdom or the Thai Government is the injured person
The offender is an alien and such act is an offence under the law of the State in the jurisdiction of which the offence is committed, if such offender has appeared in the Kingdom and has not been extradited under the law on extradition

Fuente: AQUI

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